55. IBP: Daniel Ingram down the rabbit hole


Are we all going down it too? Daniel Ingram returns to the podcast for a third and final conversation and what a rich one it was. I believe it is well worth your time. After reading some Trash Theory, Daniel accepted Glenn Wallis’s challenge to read his book and after exploring the infamous SNB heuristic, based on the work of the rascally Frenchman Francois Laruelle, he came in for round three. We go back to the heuristic that started off the Trash Theorising, touching on Decision, Sufficiency, and the Great Feast of Knowledge, before exploring novel takes on refuge, philosophy and practice.

The first two recordings have solicited quite a lot of reaction from folks on Facebook and Twitter and at the Post-Traditional Buddhism blog. This includes Tom Wooldrige who has a new blog dedicated, it seems, to critiquing Daniel’s Pragmatic Dharma approach from a psychological perspective that has stimulated reaction too. Subsequently Evan Thompson has chimed in on Daniel’s views, as has David Chapman, and Glenn Wallis.

This is a sort of eruption and a sign of the feast taking place. I argue that we need more of these kinds of conversations. Let’s see what you think after hearing this final one in this series.

There are lots of episodes connected to this conversation, some of which you might like to give a listen to as well.

  1. IBP: Daniel Ingram Meets Trash Theory: https://soundcloud.com/imperfect-buddha-podcast/54-ibp-daniel-ingram-meets-trash-theory
  2. IBP: Daniel Ingram on the Practicing Life: https://soundcloud.com/imperfect-buddha-podcast/53-ibp-daniel-ingram-on-the-practicing-life
  3. IBP: Critical Turn #1: https://soundcloud.com/imperfect-buddha-podcast/52-ibp-critical-turn-1
  4. IBP: Evan Thompson on Philosophy, Buddhism, & Embodied Consciousness: https://soundcloud.com/imperfect-buddha-podcast/ibp-140-evan-thompson-on-philosophy-buddhism-embodied-consciousness
  5. IBP: the liberating force of non-Buddhism: https://soundcloud.com/imperfect-buddha-podcast/91-imperfect-buddha-podcast-meets-non-buddhism

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54. IBP: Daniel Ingram Meets Trash Theory


You’ve had the initial goods and as promised here’s the second helping of Mr Daniel Ingram. This conversation gets right to the point and tackles, in a rather condensed and humble manner, a work of collective, creative production over at the Speculative non-Buddhism site called Trash Theory; an exploration of practice beyond decision, beyond enchantment, beyond capture. Well, that’s the plan anyway.

We start out with a quick chat about the SNB, x-Buddhism and non-Buddhism, before going through a number of postulates, or principles for practice, that have been explored and are continuing to be developed by Glenn Wallis and company. We went through it pretty quickly as we just had an hour to play with, but it was fun and an interesting exploration that will be continued in a follow up conversation to be recorded this Thursday.

You’ll find a link to the original post we worked from below, though there are, at the time of writing, six posts on the theme at hand. This one is a good start for the curious and it’s pretty accessible.

Both episodes with Daniel feature the same introduction so if you have already heard the first conversation, you will want to skip it.

It’s possible that Dan and I will tackle some of Ken Wilber’s work in the follow up to Trash Theory, so if you have any insights into why Wilber was full of it or a genious, or specific points that underline problems with Ken’s work more generally, let me have them, as I have only a superficial reading of his work and never felt motivated enough to read beyond a general introduction to his ideas, which seem pretty simplistic, though potentially quite useful.

Either way, enjoy this turn of events as we continue to dive into practice on this season of the Imperfect Buddha Podcast.

Speculative non-Buddhism: Trash Theory #3: https://speculativenonbuddhism.com/2019/05/15/trash-theory-preliminary-materials-for-an-image-of-practice-3/

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53. IBP: Daniel Ingram on the Practicing Life


After the creative wonders of the Critical Turn #1, we have the magical appearance of Daniel Ingram in two conversations covering a great deal of ground. Our first conversation covers a wide range of topics from practice to waking up, from generation-X to cynicism. The second covers a series of posts from the Speculative non-Buddhism site called Trash Theory. We discuss the SNB briefly and then tackle some weird and wonderful postulates those boys have been playing with of late. That second episode will be released within the next 24 hours.

Both episodes feature the same introduction and will be released in the same week. This is because folks will likely get more out of one episode than the other; though I shall post them in the order we recorded them.

The second episode is also incomplete and Daniel and I will be recording its follow up this coming Thursday (20th June, 2019), which means you have the opportunity to chip in with your own comments, complaints or curiosities, though you’ll obviously have to be quick.

It’s possible that we will also tackle some of Ken Wilber’s work in that episode and Daniel’s take on it, so if you have any insights into why Wilber was full of it, or specific points that underline problems with Ken’s work more generally, let me have them, as I have only a superficial reading of his work and never felt motivated to read beyond a general introduction to his ideas, which seem pretty simplistic, though potentially useful.

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Critical turn #1

Critical turn 1Critical turn #1

On a deep dark night in a deep dark wood, something strange happened over at the Imperfect Buddha podcast. Was it a moment of folly? Was it a moment of genuine madness? It remains to be seen. But one thing is for sure is that a critical turn took place and in good company too. For in that deep dark wood there was a gathering, and a fire, and those who turned up were Samuel Beckett, Peter Sloterdjik, Francois Laruelle, and Evelyn Underhill. Animal presences could also be heard amongst the trees and in the undergrowth, whilst the fire crackled away, providing the warmth that would stimulate a rather atypical exploration of recent themes to appear on the podcast.

This is the first of perhaps many critical turns, or, if it is deemed a forest fire like disaster by listeners and critics, it may be consumed as a one-off event, just like a Tibetan sand painting. As I have been saying for several episodes now, the creative and the critical are great bedfellows and this is my expression of a meeting between the two. There are strange sound effects, music, disembodied voices and narration.

For the more practically minded, what I do is lay out a number of principles for guiding a sort of critical engagement with Buddhism, Buddhist materials, and practice materials more broadly beyond spirituality. I also reflect on the topic of mysticism, which came up in my conversation with Ken and Hokai. This is in fact the intention for future critical turns, to pick up on and address issues left over from conversations with guests, identify unanswered questions, and make links to broader issues covered in the life of the podcast. This may also produce interesting material to explore with future guests. It is an experiment, so it may or may not work. Feedback will hopefully be worthwhile and indicate the direction that further critical turns take.

Prepare yourselves, expect the unexpected, and try not to take it all too seriously.

Comments, complaints, suggestions, corrections, pledges of large sums of money, can all be made at the usual places.

Enjoy the show!

51. IBP: Ken McLeod & Hokai Sobol on Practice & Mysticism (P.2)


This is the second instalment of my wide-ranging conversation with Ken McLeod and Hokai Sobol. It features an extended introduction that is, in part, a response to feedback from episode 50, and I invite our more critically leaning listeners to gift feedback on what is an ongoing experiment in crafting conversations that will increasingly respond to the challenges raised and explored throughout the life of this podcast.

The conversation was largely unplanned and improvised & this means it features free-flowing exploration, rather than a programmed engagement with a few straightforward ideas. We journey into the terrain of mysticism and practice and most of the topics covered are explored within the context of these two. Here’s just some of what we cover;

– Mysticism
– Sloterdjik & Jonathon Haidt (Žižek too!)
– Ethics V Morality
– Social duty & mystical practice
– Universal human rights & authority
– Transactional & utilitarian approaches to practice
– Verbing outcomes: nirvana & freedom as practices
– Purity & purification
– Critical thinking & engaging with the taboos of our time
– Risqué practices & the Protestant strain in western Buddhism
– teacher/Student relationships & ongoing challenges

End music is by Bristol based artist Aisha Chaouche and is called “So what?” https://chaouche.bandcamp.com/

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50. IBP: Ken McLeod & Hokai Sobol on Practice (P.1)


This is a quick introduction to help you on your way through the new season of the Imperfect Buddha Podcast. After a year of traipsing the globe with academics in an outrageous attempt to address the anti-intellectualism rife across Buddhism, and spirituality more generally, we have landed with both feet on the ground in the terrain of practice.

The challenge for this season is clear: to approach the whole concept of practice afresh. Not ignoring the past, but looking at it all in as contemporary a lens as possible, whilst bringing the great wealth of knowledge gained from our academics to bear on the personal, the subjective, the intimate, and the phenomenological.

Our first foray into such terrain is carried out in Kostrena, Croatia with Ken McLeod and Hokai Sobol and together we discussed all manner of topic from practice to culture wars, from Peter Sloterdjik to Jonathon Haidt, from non-conceptual mind to evil, from social duty to the great themes of our time, and the way they all interrelate with practice.

The conversation is divided into two parts. Being recorded live outside the studio, the quality is not the best but it is perfectly listenable and I hope the occasional passing car and slight echo won’t get in the way of your listening pleasure.

End music provided by The Naturals from Bristol. The track is entitled 2HGS and is rather wild.

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The Practising Life: updates!


What is practice? This is the fundamental question driving the new season of the Imperfect Buddha Podcast, which is about to start its journey out into the world. Practice, initially, is intended to be understood here in its most basic form; as that which humans do. Stripped bare so as to be only minimally caught in one ideology or another, practice will start off simple and return as often as possible to the most straightforward of human acts.

My interest in human practice really starts with the rudimentaries of all human lives; eating, sleeping, speaking, shitting, resting, as well as perceiving, thinking, and feeling as our most intimate practices. Yes, I think it wise to consider these last three as practices in themselves; as acts we repeatedly engage in within boundaries and confines that allow us to distinguish this from that and give value, or not, to what is carried out habitually.

My challenge in part for this season is to convince guests to chart terrain in a similarly, minimally ideological vein, in spite of whatever ideological commitments they will bring to conversation as practising beings living practising lives. We should all expect regular failure; me, you, and future guests. The striving is important all the same. Thinking from and beyond the limitations of existing thought is a noble task. Feeling beyond the familiar and sticking to it is a revelatory endeavour.

If we can do this together, then all the better for it.

Because of this stripped down relationship with practice, I will be little interested in discussing the ins-and-outs of self-contained systems of practice, or their accompanying theoretical justifications, or the promotion of teachers or traditions. Rather, I am after the leaky corners where tradition is broken out of its own stories about itself and is required to be human again and speak beyond its own special categories. I am after the leaky moments where people’s ideas and feelings are disrupted, and their humanity shines through, or where such things are reconsidered after an engagement with a new or other world of thought and feeling and practice.

None of this means I lack respect for traditions and their wares. On the contrary, I find almost all Buddhist traditions fascinating. It is rather that a living practice is always a human practice and by being so it is messy, unpredictable and beset by the concerns of the time and age in which it is practised. It is to that horizon that my gaze is fixed and to that land of emergent and unknowing possibility that I am compelled to head. If such a journey attracts you too, then I will see you on the way over the next months, and we shall find out to what degree the conversations that follow effect the practising lives we all live.

Side Note One

I recorded an interview with Cleo Kearns for Incite Seminars that was rather wonderful. I am using the past tense because technical issues strangled it dead and time constraints have meant a second chance was out of the question. Cleo, however, deserves your attention. We had a riveting discussion of ritual, ceremony and practice and her workshop this coming weekend deserves your attention if you are in the Philadelphia area (Saturday, May 12th). She will be coming on for a full, regular conversation somewhere down the line and we will discuss the practising life in relation to religion, spirituality, Shamanism, Catholicism (that’s right, I’m not kidding), and Buddhism.

For now, here’s the link to the event:  https://inciteseminars.com/ritual-and-resistance/

Side Note Two

The first conversation in this new series has already taken place. When opportunity knocks, well, you know the rest. I recently spent time in Rijeka in a three-way conversation with Ken McLeod and Hokai Sobol. Anybody paying attention to these two knows that they are both fully immersed in the practising life. They have also been past guests and already in those conversations the emphasis was on practice. The three-way format is a good one and I hope to make more such conversations take place. Conversing is always an art and I often fail to reach the fine art levels of discourse I would envision possible, but a practising life, if it is anything, is a reminder that imperfection is the nature of the thing. Within the imperfection we can find the human struggling and striving and playing out his or her life. Hokai and Ken are great examples of fellow humans committed to practice and coming to terms with it in the messy lived life.  Both have disrupted their relationship with tradition and both are striving to make sense of the rich heritage they have grown up in with the challenges of the world we inhabit today. Our conversation covers much ground and many topics.

End Note

The shift from the theoretical to the practical is not total. Thought, theory, ideology, and identity all come along for the ride. For those with a more critical bent, I invite you to stay critical, but to do so from the perspective and experience of practice, even as you engage theoretically. I think you will find it more fruitful to do so and the thought that emerges as a consequence will be of a different flavour. Of course, you can do as you wish, but why not see these conversations and interviews firstly as a practice in themselves?

Wish me luck fellow travellers. On to terrain anew and places unknown.